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_Len Kinder (Writes Cataclysmic Earth History)
Dr. Herbert Shelton used to say that rabies is a myth, that it occurs in the early spring when animals are coming out of hibernation and may be malnourished or starving.
_Stephanie Brail (Writes Wholistic)
Ridiculous. It was not spring when this woman was attacked by a rabid fox a few weeks ago and the fox is clearly healthy enough to attack her relentlessly. https://www.pennlive.com/nation-world/2022/08/rabid-fox-attacks-woman-at-her-new-york-home-video.html
_Len Kinder
A virus denier made a comment at https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/debate-viruses-do-not-exist-or-do/comment/8852250 suggesting that it's a neurotoxin, not a virus. Is that plausible? I see there are images of rabies viruses online. But I have a paper at https://ilki.substack.com/p/is-microbiology-real asking if Microbiology is sound, since Dr Harold Hillman showed good evidence that there are some serious errors, due to distortion of specimens via imaging techniques etc. I also have a post at https://ilki.substack.com/p/vax-questions-for-experts/comments trying to get experts to share their info explaining Covid & vaxes in considerable detail.
_Len Kinder
PS, Shelton also said syphillis is a myth. He had a book called Syphillis, Werewolf of Medicine.
_georgie&donny (Writes Georgie&Donnys Newsletter)
If you are bitten by a rabid dog and become ill- you don't pass the illnesses on to another person or animal, so it is not caused by an infectious or transmissible particle.
_The observations are consistent with a neurotoxin produced by bacteria being present in the mouth of a malnourished and/or maltreated dog that are 'injected' into a person by the teeth of the dog.
_All the symptoms of rabies are consistent with neurotoxic poisoning.
_There is no evidence that a rabies virus exists, they have never found one, and rabies is not transmissible once bitten, but it would be very silly to allow myself to be bitten by a 'rabid' dog. Jo
__HERPES
_IntuitiveThinker (Writes Intuitive Thinker)
Lovely and logical. The same point I have made about herpes carriers who infect others that end up not being carriers. Hence herpes cannot be tranismisible by a non carrier.
_Len Kinder
I guess that's what Dr. Shelton was talking about years ago. Thanks for clarifying. Do you know where to find more info on the neurotoxins involved?
_georgie&donny
They could be similar to tetrodotoxins produced by bacteria in puffer fish, these produce the exact same symptoms as rabies; hypersalivation, weakness, restlessness, paralysis, tremor, dysphasia (swallowing problems) and coma. It can also inhibit sodium channels and may lead to death.
_I'm not sure there is any money in studying it, as everyone wants us to think there's a virus. Jo
_Stephanie Brail
Rabies is spread through saliva. Thus the "foaming at the mouth." So yes, humans can spread it potentially, but rabies is not airborne like a respiratory virus.
_georgie&donny
So the 'virus' infects all your cells, multiplies inside, bursts out of the cells, escapes somehow back into the airways or GI tract and then leaves the host though it can only exist inside cells, and can only infect someone else by breaking their skin. I think we are so far down the virus rabbit hole we can't think straight. https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/were-so-far-down-the-rabbit-hole
_Len Kinder
I'm working on that issue at https://ilki.substack.com/p/is-microbiology-real and https://ilki.substack.com/p/vax-questions-for-experts/comments etc
_Hermes
I did not say it infects all your cells. What I learned of viruses is that they can only get into the cell with certain transporters that must be exposed in the cell lining. So no transporter, no infection.
_Faith (Writes ASnhat 40KFt)
The Rabies virus travels up nerves from the bite site to the salivary glands and the brain. Bigger things like bacteria can't do that.
_And the farther away from the brain is the location of the bite, the longer it takes for central nervous system symptoms to develop. For instance, if you get bitten on the head or neck, you will become symptomatic much sooner than if you get bitten on the foot.
_Len Kinder
Faith, how does the virus travel through nerves?
_Faith
Good question, but they do! The Chicken Pox virus that causes Shingles does it and migrates through an entire nerve "tree" to the skin, typically over a section of the chest or abdomen; plus other herpes viruses, and measels-type viruses like the one that causes Canine Distemper all hide out in nerves where the immune system can't get to them with macrophages to eat them. Bell's Palsey is from viruses getting inside the Facial nerve, one of the "cranial nerves" that come directly from the brain, and they cause swelling and pressure that cuts off nerve transmission to that side of the face, usually temporarily.
_Diana
Your description of the journey of rabies “virus” sounds like the same pathology as snake or spider bite - it’s a toxin - not necessarily a “virus”. Actually the word VIRUS means “toxin” so maybe we’re all saying the same thing here!
_rich (Writes rich’s Newsletter)
https://odysee.com/@drsambailey:c/What-About-Rabies:a
_Faith
Interesting, but her very strong bias introduces the possibility that she is cherry-picking her "evidence". She is certainly "slanting" her conclusions. This does not constitute a scientific presentation on the subject. ... "prion"-configuration in the COVID shots' spikes all caused by the same mis-folded prion material or is it usually species-specific?
_Len Kinder
Faith, can you tell us more about the prion configuration in Covid vax spike protein? I read long ago that prions can be possibly very contagious and deadly, as they can cause proteins to fold improperly as in CJD etc.
_Faith
I've read so much, and seen so many videos by now of doctors and researchers talking about the spike protein, I'm not sure offhand who was discussing a segment of the spike that appears to be similar to the Mad Cow disease prions. I've saved hundreds of links to them, so given enough time I might be able to locate that specific reference.
_Also, there was an article fairly recently about an unusual increase in cases of Cruetzfeldt-Jacob disease after COVID shots, with people succumbing rather quickly from it, like within about four months. Weird.
_Heidi Heil
It can be seen under electron microscopy. Antibiotics do not work. They cannot turn food into energy like bacteria and fungi. Viruses are not really alive so they must have a host and infect the cells to replicate. They're able to replicate in a petri dish full of cells.
_You can infect humanized lab rats, they get sick and spread it.
_You go nowhere ever and your spouse keeps bringing viruses home when they are spreading around his work place. You catch them from him. You can build immunity to it that can be tested. For viruses like EBV and herpes you can get flair ups. Some viruses cause cancers or lymphatic disorders.
_Peter Nayland Kust (Writes All Facts Matter)
_There is the vaccine developed by Louis Pasteur in the late 19th century.
https://www.jstor.org/stable/3560403?origin=crossref
_There is phylogenetic analysis and reconstruction of rabies and other lyssaviruses providing a chronology for the evolution of the rabies virus
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5620125/
_There are the electron microscopy studies of the rabies virus.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2106341/
_Mark B
The rabies virus structure allows it to be genetically modified with a fluorescent protein. It can then be tracked and observed doing its virusy stuff. I did see something explaining this in plain English a while ago but can only find this at the moment. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC525074/
_Stephanie Brail
The comments here are quite alarming. I wrote up an article on the danger of rabies. https://wholistic.substack.com/p/rabies-get-vaccinated-or-prepare
_Len Kinder
What about warts?
_georgie&donny
they seem to be a result of trauma and effects of toxins which may be being expelled. they is certainly no evidence that they are caused by viruses https://odysee.com/@drsambailey:c/What-We-Weren't-Taught-About-Herpes:3